Posts by lj

    Quote from Cozmo D;64810

    Yeah, I have read that as well. "Station To Station" is a train themed track, and that part of it's influence on TEE is quite evident, right down to the train-like sounds and effects, but "Station To Station" isn't a dance record, while TEE is. What influenced Kraftwerk to start making DANCE records?

    might be purely coincidental:
    - trans europe express is the only danceable tune on the whole album (well, maybe except for metal on metal, but that's just a kind of TEE bonus beats). the other tunes have a "krauty", non-funky vibe.
    - as the story goes, kraftwerk went over to the duesseldorf train station the night before recording TEE.
    - the beat is a direct translation of a train sound, right down to the syncopation.
    - so foremost it would be an "industrial" record (in terms of emulating real-life sounds and turning them into beat/music).
    - so maybe it is a coincidence that it came out that funky?

    imo they didn't start deliberately making danceable music until computerworld.

    Quote from elektroakust.;64648

    Bambaataa's/Baker's music came from the Hiphop side of things. No doubt about that.

    Baker's music came from the disco and boogie side of things. :D

    Bambaataa's music came from the Hip Hop side of things, but what does that mean? There was no specific Hip Hop MUSIC ... Hip Hop borrowed and was based on a whole lot of different musicals styles. So the mindset behind Planet Rock was Hip Hop, but the music of it was a mix of electro(nic music), funk and a hint of disco. :D

    Quote from elektroakust.;64614

    Whenever i read that Bambaataa called his music (Planet Rock etc) "Electro-Funk"
    something just doesn't seem to make fully sense. Listening to it the obvious 2 predominant
    elements in this are Rap and electronic Kraftwerk style music. The funk in this seems to be
    limited to the syncopated drum programming. So shouldn't this rather be called
    "Electro-Rap" or "Electro-Hiphop" instead of "Electro-Funk"?

    The funk is in the beats (and the bass of course which is just one note that's completely on top of the beat ... a perfect groove). Both of Planet Rock's beats are funk beats ... Captain Sky's Super Sporm of course, but also Kraftwerk's numbers. Like you said elsewhere in the thread, Kraftwerk were listening to American funk music a lot, and numbers is their "mechanized" version of a funk groove!

    So I wouldn't call it "limited to the drum programming" ... as the beat is such an essential part of Planet Rock. It's essentially an electronic breaks record with a huge emhasis on the rhythm of the 2 funky drum breaks.

    haha yeah I only found out about this a few months ago … came as quite a surprise!

    His 1984 solo album was a bit of a let down though … it was this kind of experience where you first hear an absolute killer tune and get the album only to find out that it's the best tune on the whole album. (the killer tune is this one here):


    Quote from LiveWire;63020 not electro but should be of interest to any fellow brits here in their late 30s or over :cylon: a great BBC documentary about all the early synthpop artists who were influenced by Kraftwerk. Some amusing old tales in this. really enjoyed it.

    Synth Britannia is fantastic, of course! You cannot give it enough praise.

    Will have to check out that other one, Made in Sheffield.

    Quote from elektroakust.;7813


    oh man, the 90s were such a lost decade. :-X

    Great interview, very interesting!

    Good to hear that John Robie (and Arthur Baker) get some major credit by Bam. And glad to hear that Super Sporm gets mentioned ... that's kind of one of Planet Rock's untold secrets; it's such a hard hitting beat and has always been my favorite bit of Planet Rock.

    I'm always a sucker for genealogies ... I have been thinking about those little bleeps and bloops in the beat lately, and it suddenly occured to me that this is a direct element from disco. Arthur Baker had rather been a disco/boogie producer before Planet Rock, and this only goes to show how firmly Planet Rock is rooted in different strains of music history.

    Quote from Cozmo D;63954

    Probably our most "Nu Electro" like track back then. :)

    I have been listening to the 2 albums a lot during my workouts lately, and I was thinking the same thing about Teknology.

    Very much interested, of course. :D
    What's the timeframe for this?

    Beautiful site! I'm looking forward to reading all that material.

    If i may say so, your original electro funk article was quite influential for my listening habits. :D And it left me with enough questions to make me do my own "research" ... tracing genealogies etc.

    One minor complaint: the color scheme makes it a bit difficult to read longer texts (small white text on a black background).

    Just stumbled across this German outfit ... incredible:


    yes, it's a remix of a starpoint song ... but this one is even better, although it's from 2009 (!)

    I started documenting some of my modular synth stuff on youtube a while ago ... at first it was only short sketches, but as they have been turning into longer jams lately I thought "Why not post them here?" ... so here we go:



    not for the faint of heart (4 to the floor content):


    ... and a couple more on my channel, follow the link in my signature if you like.

    very nice!

    there's also this guy from sweden (kind of a chiptune scholar :D )who has built a chiptune synth:

    i like some of it. imo skweee is/was the most innovative style of electro since the 90s new school wave. plus it definitely had some hype/crossover potential ... i don't quite understand why it didn't blow up.

    as far as the music goes, i covered randy barracuda in detail on my blog ... you might find it if you google search for randy barracuda and cosmic rock.

    lately i have rediscovered beem who is also part of the skweee scene but doesn't really conform to skweee's lo-fi esthetic. the thread must be in this section.

    the general interest in skweee on this forum is pretty much nonexistent, though.

    Man there are so many great tunes from the 80s ... but since this is the 90s section, I'd go with one of the rare gems from that era:

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    ... well, one more can't hurt: :D

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    Thanks for the interview, that was very insightful! And if you read it to the end (his Electro top 5), you see how important Kraftwerk was ... not only for him, but for the whole scene. So (coming full circle) I'd still say the article is wrong in putting too much emphasis on rather obscure influences like Cat Stevens, Ryuichi Sakamoto/YMO or even Thomas Dolby.