need some vocoder advice

u bastard :]]] don't confuse da man :]]]] did u try klang labs vokko ? :]

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i don't think distortion will get me the sound i am looking for.
i haven't tried klang lab yet though.
i am really looking for CRISP, raspy and clear sounds. problem is: my mic seems to pick up a lot of low frequencies and the recorded vocals always sound mute.
some references i am trying to emulate: for the raspy, menacing monophonic type: jonzun crew.
for the softer but still clear and defined polyphonic type: newcleus - cyborg dance.

u feel me?

ROLAND SVC 350 is then perfect for you.But,if you dont have the money to by that from ebay or somewhare,then i think that FL studio vocoder is alternativ solution.I dont want to mantion that for SVC 350 you need to have a carrier.Thats another + $$$

Here you go.Realy good explaned tutorial for FL vocoder.
Hope so,this will help you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91igHV0CwJk

Don't forget to send midi signal to control vocoder
more information for Vocal Recording

http://djatacan.com/vocal-recording

Here is your missing link of clarity......

you need a mic preamp.

Hands down.

Use the best mic that you have and try to get good vocal timing, clarity and quality.

Then use quite ruff compressing and limiting to get the recorded vocal sound very loud and clear, don't forget eq:ing all sub freqs out (HP filter around 50-100Hz), add some high freqs (+3 - +8dB). Then use some good vocoder like FL Studio vocoder/Vocodex.

Your carrier should be SAW/Pulse+some gentle noise or all together, use carrier that has lot of harmonics. Then play with the vocoder settings.

Add a ruff compressor/eq after the vocoder. Maybe some delay/reverb/chorus too. When you got the right kind of sound, sample your vocoder output and clean the wav with gentle limiter (around -2dB), remove sub freqs (HP filter to around 50Hz), add some high freq eq if needed more clarity.

Hi lj. First of all that tune is spot on - Nice one !

Have you considered delving into Ableton at all ? I'm only scratching the surface at the moment, but maybe you should check out these vids on Ableton 8's Vocoder. I find it extremely flexible and easy to use:

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here it is (vocals only till 0:50):

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setup:
- synth = TAL UNO 62 with a saw + square sub oscillator + a whole lot of noise for the raspy sound at the beginning. TAL UNO 62 with a saw + a square for the clear polyphonic sounds later on
- vocoder = orange vocoder + some effects

feel free to help me out with any more hints!

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Hey, that sounds very good, lj.

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i am already working with ableton live!
unfortunately, i only have version 6, and there's no vocoder in 6!

Oh...... My apologies.